Empire Minute 111: The Green Cross Code Man

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Date

June 15th, 2014

Summary

The live Father's Day special, pt I. Vader puts away his sword and holds his hand out to Luke.

Guests

Asterios Kokkinos and Kevin Maher

Notes

Film

  • This is the minute that Darth Vader reveals that he could be Luke's Father.
  • Starts with Darth Vader telling Luke that Obi-Wan never told him what happened to his father.
  • Ends with Luke considering Vader's offer to rule the galaxy as father and son.

Podcast

  • Recorded live at the Parkside Lounge, NYC.
  • Where did all the wind on the gantry come from?
  • Luke seems to believe that Darth Vader is his father straight away.
  • The hosts opinion of this revelation.
  • Modern day spoilers ruining everything.
  • Referenced: Family Guy Star Wars series.
  • Movie parodies.
  • The delivery and emphasis of Luke's "...you killed him" line.
  • Why does Luke keep moving out on the gantry when Darth Vader isn't pursuing him? To try and find his hand?
  • Mention of Luuke Skywalker, the clone of Luke Skywalker made from Luke Skywalker's severed hand.
  • Vader killing Luke's father has never really come up before in the movies; yet it seems like Luke is trying to get revenge.
  • Referenced: Señor Wences, Thing T. Thing from "The Addams family".
  • Nature versus nurture - Luke becoming like Anakin or Uncle Owen.
  • <Asterios> Sorry Pete - In the prequels Luke as a baby is named Skywalker and hidden in Anakin's cousin's home. Isn't that a bit obvious? They should have named him:
    • Luke Walkskyer.
    • Wuke Sklywalker.
    • Luke Starkiller (no, no, no that'll never work).
  • How does Vader know that Luke is his son? And how does he know what Obi-Wan has told him?
  • Leather sound effect of Vader's fist closing.
  • Vader probably finds it very therapeutic to tell Luke that he is his father.
  • Vader does not make a compelling argument for Luke to join him.
  • No son wants to join the family business and grow up to be just like dad, so Luke's situation strikes a chord with young male viewers.
  • Vader's not used to persuading people to do things - he usually just Force chokes them.
  • Is Mark Hamill's acting in this scene really good or really bad? They take a vote.
    • The same people who cheered for "good acting" are the ones who cheered for "bad acting".
  • Referenced: The Simpsons.
  • David Prowse did not know what the line in the movie would be.
  • David Prowse's other roles. He was in a British PSA about crossing the street safely, where he dressed up as a superhero called the Green Cross Code Man.
  • The symbolism of the rare blinking caution light on the gantry.
  • All of Luke's hopes crumble in this scene and you can see it on his face.
  • The Jungian aspects of The Empire Strikes Back.
  • Referenced: Cool Hand Luke (1967).
  • Does Luke know that Vader is a cyborg?
  • Buying extended service contracts for cyborg hands.
  • Luke says "No!" like Anakin / Vader does in the Prequels.
  • Referenced: Cat's in the Cradle"; Weird Al Yankovic.
  • Luke looks to the abyss as an out or option.
  • Vader says that the Emperor has foreseen that Luke can destroy the Emperor. If this is the truth, then why didn't the Emperor just tell Vader to kill Luke?
    • The Emperor was going to turn Luke and then kill Vader.
    • Maybe Vader knew this, hence his plan to team up with Luke.
    • Sith always have plans behind plans.
  • Do the hosts have any sympathy for Anakin / Vader as the hero of Star Wars? No - it's Luke story.
  • Disney is considering turning the Prequels into something called "Legends" <see Meta Minute below>.
  • Kids loving the Prequels.
 Kevin's The Empire Strikes Back memories:
 Saw it when he was five and fell asleep in the middle.
 It's a very talky movie.
 Had a bunch of Star Wars toys.
 Kevin connects to the film now by remembering the things he had as a kid.
 Asterios's memories:
 He was into the TIE fighter PC game.
 Before you could save a game at checkpoints.
 When you got blown up you died and would have to go back to the very start.

Meta Minute

Quotes

  • Kevin: <As Vader> What's got two thumbs and wants you to join the Dark Side? This guy!
  • Asterios: ...so that nerds like us who go downtown at, like, 7:00 pm; who leave work early to talk about Star Wars or listen to Star Wars get talked about...
  • Kevin: OH GOD NO! I DON'T WANT TO DO HOTEL MAINTENANCE AND AIR CONDITIONING REPAIR!
  • Asterios: Let's get collectively unconscious later tonight! Yeah!
  • Alex: America, ladies and gentlemen!
  • Asterios: You don't stare at another man's mouth? That's homophobic.

Links

http://www.starwarsminute.com/2014/06/15/empire-minute-111-the-green-cross-code-man/

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