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	====Other notes====		====Other notes====
	*Plug for [[Star Wars Minute: Weekend Edition]]. ~~Steel ehas~~ not yet been on the SWM:WE		*Plug for [[Star Wars Minute: Weekend Edition]]. Steele has not yet been on the SWM:WE

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	**Does Rey a) fall in the seaweed hole, b) jump in, or c) does it pull her in?		**Does Rey a) fall in the seaweed hole, b) jump in, or c) does it pull her in?
	*We see a skull under the water. It's reminiscent of whenever they go underground in "The Simpsons" and you see dinosaur skeletons and alien spaceships and whatnot.		*We see a skull under the water. It's reminiscent of whenever they go underground in "The Simpsons" and you see dinosaur skeletons and alien spaceships and whatnot.
	**It's also a callback to earlier in the movie when we saw something even more similar to that.		**It's also a callback to [[Last Jedi Minute 50: The Kinks\|earlier in the movie]] when we saw something even more similar to that.
	**Is it the skeleton of that sea monster thing (its '''space bones''')~~, and what was that called again?~~		**Is it the skeleton of that sea monster thing (its '''space bones''').
	*The seaweed hole seems to be open to the elements, as in there's more than one way to enter.		*The seaweed hole seems to be open to the elements, as in there's more than one way to enter.
	**Do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use?		**Do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use?

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The seaweed hole

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	*We see a skull under the water. It's reminiscent of whenever they go underground in "The Simpsons" and you see dinosaur skeletons and alien spaceships and whatnot.		*We see a skull under the water. It's reminiscent of whenever they go underground in "The Simpsons" and you see dinosaur skeletons and alien spaceships and whatnot.
	**It's also a callback to earlier in the movie when we saw something even more similar to that.		**It's also a callback to earlier in the movie when we saw something even more similar to that.
	**Is it the skeleton of that sea monster thing, and what was that called again?		**Is it the skeleton of that sea monster thing (its '''space bones'''), and what was that called again?
	*The seaweed hole seems to be open to the elements, as in there's more than one way to enter.		*The seaweed hole seems to be open to the elements, as in there's more than one way to enter.
	**Do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use?		**Do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use?

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the seaweed hole

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	*The statement "...to become what you're meant to be."		*The statement "...to become what you're meant to be."
	**Pete feels that it undermines the previous sentiment because it still lets the past hold sway over you it's like a prophecy.		**Pete feels that it undermines the previous sentiment because it still lets the past hold sway over you it's like a prophecy.
	====~~the~~ seaweed hole====		====The seaweed hole====
	*The connection between the Force call and Rey going to the seaweed hole.		*The connection between the Force call and Rey going to the seaweed hole.
	**We hear the sounds of the swamp hole at the end of her call with Kylo Ren before we see the seaweed hole.		**We hear the sounds of the swamp hole at the end of her call with Kylo Ren before we see the seaweed hole.
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	**Do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use?		**Do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use?
	**Have other creatures gone down there (such as porg)? What would they see?		**Have other creatures gone down there (such as porg)? What would they see?

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	*Plug for [[Star Wars Minute: Weekend Edition]]. Steel ehas not yet been on the SWM:WE		*Plug for [[Star Wars Minute: Weekend Edition]]. Steel ehas not yet been on the SWM:WE

Kabutton at 15:44, 16 September 2022

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	==Guests==		==Guests==
	[[Steele Saunders]]		[[Steele Saunders]]
	==Notes==		==Notes==
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	The connection between the force call and Ray going to the seaweed hole. We hear the sounds of the swamp hole at the end of her call with kylo Ren her force call before we see the seaweed hole. Pete and then Alex quotes the call of the seaweed hole. Luke said the seaweed hole was giving her something she needed that it was trying to show her something and so when kylo Ren told Ray that her parents threw away like garbage she decided to go look them up. He put that thought into her mind and so influence what she saw in the seaweed hole. Parallels when Luke is about to go into the evil cave and Yoda says that you will see only way you bring in there. Does Ray a) fall in the seaweed hole or b) does she jump in or c) does it pull her in
	We see a skull under the water it's reminiscent of whenever they go underground in The Simpsons and you see dinosaur skeletons and alien spaceships and whatnot. It's also a call back to earlier in the movie when we saw something even more similar to that. Is it the skeleton of that sea monster rthing, and what was that called again? Seaweed hole seems to be open to the elements as in there's more than one way to enter do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use and have other creatures gone down there such as porg? Plug for Star Wars minute weekend edition. Steel has not yet been on the swimway
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	===Film===		===Film===
	*Starts with Kylo Ren saying "...kill it, if you have to. Ends with Rey going for a swim.		*Starts with Kylo Ren saying "...kill it, if you have to. Ends with Rey going for a swim.
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	***It's so Meta because now there's a GIRL into Star Wars and so Kylo Ren (the scorned fanboy) has to gatekeep or exact a toll or make fun of her for being into Star Wars.		***It's so Meta because now there's a GIRL into Star Wars and so Kylo Ren (the scorned fanboy) has to gatekeep or exact a toll or make fun of her for being into Star Wars.
	*Is saying to let the past die a variation on the Jedi concept of no attachments? It seems like Yoda would agree he did destroy the Jedi Temple on Ahch-To.		*Is saying to let the past die a variation on the Jedi concept of no attachments? It seems like Yoda would agree he did destroy the Jedi Temple on Ahch-To.
	The same thing happens with comics and TV shows and movies.		*The same thing happens with comics and TV shows and movies.
	**Mentioned ~~bring back firefly~~. They're never going to be as good as you think they should be so just let them go enjoy them remember them but don't try to resurrect them. The statement to become what you're meant to be Pete feels that undermines the previous sentiment because it still lets the past hold sway over you it's like a prophecy.		**Mentioned: Bring Back "Firefly". They're never going to be as good as you think they should be, so just let them go: enjoy them, remember them, but don't try to resurrect them.
			*The statement "...to become what you're meant to be."
			**Pete feels that it undermines the previous sentiment because it still lets the past hold sway over you it's like a prophecy.
			====the seaweed hole====
			*The connection between the Force call and Rey going to the seaweed hole.
			**We hear the sounds of the swamp hole at the end of her call with Kylo Ren before we see the seaweed hole.
			**Luke said the seaweed hole was giving her something she needed, and Rey said it was trying to show her something, so when Kylo Ren told Rey that her parents threw away like garbage, she decided to go look them up. He put that thought into her mind and so that influenced what she saw in the seaweed hole.
			***Parallels when Luke is about to go into the Evil Cave and Yoda says that you will see only way you bring in there.
			**Does Rey a) fall in the seaweed hole, b) jump in, or c) does it pull her in?
			*We see a skull under the water. It's reminiscent of whenever they go underground in "The Simpsons" and you see dinosaur skeletons and alien spaceships and whatnot.
			**It's also a callback to earlier in the movie when we saw something even more similar to that.
			**Is it the skeleton of that sea monster thing, and what was that called again?
			*The seaweed hole seems to be open to the elements, as in there's more than one way to enter.
			**Do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use?
			**Have other creatures gone down there (such as porg)? What would they see?
			====Other notes====
			*Plug for [[Star Wars Minute: Weekend Edition]]. Steel ehas not yet been on the SWM:WE
	===Meta Minute===		===Meta Minute===
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	*'''Steele''' You're becoming very well suited for YouTube.		*'''Steele''' You're becoming very well suited for YouTube.
	*'''Steele:''' "Remember to ruin an episode next season."		*'''Steele:''' "Remember to ruin an episode next season."
			*'''Pete''' and then '''Alex:''' the call of the seaweed hole.
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Kabutton at 14:21, 16 September 2022

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	People misinterpreted as what Johnson or lucasfilm are saying but it's actually the villain who's saying it. But it's interesting in that it parallels what Luke was saying about how the Jedi are over and done with. It speaks to where kylo is at this point in his story arc. It's like a kid who is super into Star Wars but then got made fun of for it and so turns a 180 and gives other people a hard time for liking star wars.		The connection between the force call and Ray going to the seaweed hole. We hear the sounds of the swamp hole at the end of her call with kylo Ren her force call before we see the seaweed hole. Pete and then Alex quotes the call of the seaweed hole. Luke said the seaweed hole was giving her something she needed that it was trying to show her something and so when kylo Ren told Ray that her parents threw away like garbage she decided to go look them up. He put that thought into her mind and so influence what she saw in the seaweed hole. Parallels when Luke is about to go into the evil cave and Yoda says that you will see only way you bring in there. Does Ray a) fall in the seaweed hole or b) does she jump in or c) does it pull her in
	It's So Meta because now there's a girl in the Star Wars and so kylo Ren the scornd Fanboy has to gatekeep or exact a toll or make fun of her for being into Star Wars. Is saying to let the past die A variation on the Jedi concept of no attachments it seems like Yoda would agree he did destroy the Jedi Temple.
	The same thing with comics and TV shows and movies. Mentioned bring back firefly. They're never going to be as good as you think they should be so just let them go enjoy them remember them but don't try to resurrect them. The statement to become what you're meant to be Pete feels that undermines the previous sentiment because it still lets the past hold sway over you it's like a prophecy. The connection between the force call and Ray going to the seaweed hole. We hear the sounds of the swamp hole at the end of her call with kylo Ren her force call before we see the seaweed hole. Pete and then Alex quotes the call of the seaweed hole. Luke said the seaweed hole was giving her something she needed that it was trying to show her something and so when kylo Ren told Ray that her parents threw away like garbage she decided to go look them up. He put that thought into her mind and so influence what she saw in the seaweed hole. Parallels when Luke is about to go into the evil cave and Yoda says that you will see only way you bring in there. Does Ray a) fall in the seaweed hole or b) does she jump in or c) does it pull her in
	We see a skull under the water it's reminiscent of whenever they go underground in The Simpsons and you see dinosaur skeletons and alien spaceships and whatnot. It's also a call back to earlier in the movie when we saw something even more similar to that. Is it the skeleton of that sea monster rthing, and what was that called again? Seaweed hole seems to be open to the elements as in there's more than one way to enter do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use and have other creatures gone down there such as porg? Plug for Star Wars minute weekend edition. Steel has not yet been on the swimway		We see a skull under the water it's reminiscent of whenever they go underground in The Simpsons and you see dinosaur skeletons and alien spaceships and whatnot. It's also a call back to earlier in the movie when we saw something even more similar to that. Is it the skeleton of that sea monster rthing, and what was that called again? Seaweed hole seems to be open to the elements as in there's more than one way to enter do you see things differently depending on which entrance you use and have other creatures gone down there such as porg? Plug for Star Wars minute weekend edition. Steel has not yet been on the swimway
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	**Shout-out to [[Andy Robinson\|Alex's brother]]. He's a casual Star Wars fan and comes out of every Star Wars movie thinking it was great but when he asks Alex what he thought of it, it's almost like they saw a completely different movies.		**Shout-out to [[Andy Robinson\|Alex's brother]]. He's a casual Star Wars fan and comes out of every Star Wars movie thinking it was great but when he asks Alex what he thought of it, it's almost like they saw a completely different movies.
	***Since it's sort of his job to think intensely about Star Wars movies as supposed to just watching them, Alex has to be guarded about what he shares with Andy because he doesn't want to ruin it for him.		***Since it's sort of his job to think intensely about Star Wars movies as supposed to just watching them, Alex has to be guarded about what he shares with Andy because he doesn't want to ruin it for him.
			====Let the past die====
	*Kylo's line that opens this minute is one of the most quoted lines from this movie, both by fans and detractors.		*Kylo's line that opens this minute is one of the most quoted lines from this movie, both by fans and detractors.
			**People misinterpreted this to be what Johnson or Lucasfilm are saying, but it's actually the ''villain'' of the mpvie who's saying it.
			***But it's interesting in that it parallels what Luke was saying about how the Jedi are over and done with.
			**It speaks to where Kylo is at this point in his story arc. It's like a kid who is super into Star Wars but then got made fun of for it and so turns a 180 and gives other people a hard time for liking star wars.
			***It's so Meta because now there's a GIRL into Star Wars and so Kylo Ren (the scorned fanboy) has to gatekeep or exact a toll or make fun of her for being into Star Wars.
			*Is saying to let the past die a variation on the Jedi concept of no attachments? It seems like Yoda would agree he did destroy the Jedi Temple on Ahch-To.
			The same thing happens with comics and TV shows and movies.
			**Mentioned bring back firefly. They're never going to be as good as you think they should be so just let them go enjoy them remember them but don't try to resurrect them. The statement to become what you're meant to be Pete feels that undermines the previous sentiment because it still lets the past hold sway over you it's like a prophecy.
	===Meta Minute===		===Meta Minute===
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Kabutton: /* Meta Minute */

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Meta Minute

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	*26:33 podcast episode length.		*26:33 podcast episode length.
			*When this video originally posted to YouTube, Pete's audio and video both cut out. Rather than delete the video, it was renamed [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHPg7yIi_Q Last Jedi Minute 74: DIY Edition] to allow the viewer to fill in their own dialog.

	==Quotes==		==Quotes==

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	*'''Steele:''' "Remember to ruin an episode next season."		*'''Steele:''' "Remember to ruin an episode next season."
	==Links==		==Links==
	;Audio only: http://www.starwarsminute.com/2021/05/13/last-jedi-minute-74-space-bones		;Audio only: http://www.starwarsminute.com/2021/05/13/last-jedi-minute-74-space-bones
			;Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAXF8vSrzMY
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Kabutton at 14:07, 16 September 2022

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	The difference between best as in quality and favorites. Unfortunately the emotions are so high surrounding this film out of universe that steal finds himself spending too much time defending it and not enough time enjoying it. The problem with doing a season of the show a year roughly is that we're catching up to the present day meaning we haven't had time to sit with these movies as long as we have the original trilogy or even the prequels. Relaxed perspective of hindsight because we're still within the zeitgeist. Before this movie you could just gush about Star Wars and it was okay you didn't have to worry but now if someone asks you your feelings on The Last Jedi you have to be kind of guarded and engage how much of your true feelings you should be sharing. Shout out to Alex's brother. He's a casual Star Wars fan and comes out of every Star Wars movie thinking it was great but when he asks Alex what he thought of it it's almost like they saw a completely different movies. Since it's sort of his job to think intensely about Star Wars movies as supposed to just watching them. He has to be guarded about what he shares with Andy because he doesn't want to ruin it for him. Carlos line that opens his minute is one of the most quoted lines from this movie both by fans and detractors.
	People misinterpreted as what Johnson or lucasfilm are saying but it's actually the villain who's saying it. But it's interesting in that it parallels what Luke was saying about how the Jedi are over and done with. It speaks to where kylo is at this point in his story arc. It's like a kid who is super into Star Wars but then got made fun of for it and so turns a 180 and gives other people a hard time for liking star wars.		People misinterpreted as what Johnson or lucasfilm are saying but it's actually the villain who's saying it. But it's interesting in that it parallels what Luke was saying about how the Jedi are over and done with. It speaks to where kylo is at this point in his story arc. It's like a kid who is super into Star Wars but then got made fun of for it and so turns a 180 and gives other people a hard time for liking star wars.
	It's So Meta because now there's a girl in the Star Wars and so kylo Ren the scornd Fanboy has to gatekeep or exact a toll or make fun of her for being into Star Wars. Is saying to let the past die A variation on the Jedi concept of no attachments it seems like Yoda would agree he did destroy the Jedi Temple.		It's So Meta because now there's a girl in the Star Wars and so kylo Ren the scornd Fanboy has to gatekeep or exact a toll or make fun of her for being into Star Wars. Is saying to let the past die A variation on the Jedi concept of no attachments it seems like Yoda would agree he did destroy the Jedi Temple.
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	**The red [5] herring of seeing the X-Wing parked underwater.		**The red [5] herring of seeing the X-Wing parked underwater.
	*Off the cuff, Pete comes up with the "Finn in the medical bubble" dream theory ''(cf, the "Han Solo in Carbonite" dream theory")''. <!--I strongly suspect that when they cover rise of Skywalker they will not keep the bubble hallucination in mind but check back on this.-->		*Off the cuff, Pete comes up with the "Finn in the medical bubble" dream theory ''(cf, the "Han Solo in Carbonite" dream theory")''. <!--I strongly suspect that when they cover rise of Skywalker they will not keep the bubble hallucination in mind but check back on this.-->
			*The difference between "best" as in quality and most favorite.
			**Unfortunately, the emotions are so high surrounding this film (out-of-universe) that Steele finds himself spending too much time defending it and not enough time enjoying it.
			**The problem with doing a season of the show a year roughly is that we're catching up to the present day, meaning we haven't had time to sit with these movies as long as we have the Original Trilogy or even the Prequels. We lack the perspective of hindsight because we're still within the zeitgeist.
			*Before this movie, you could just gush about Star Wars and it was okay; you didn't have to worry about people having an unexpected extreme reaction, but now if someone asks you your feelings on ''The Last Jedi'', you have to be kind of guarded and gauge how much of your true feelings you should be sharing.
			**Shout-out to [[Andy Robinson\|Alex's brother]]. He's a casual Star Wars fan and comes out of every Star Wars movie thinking it was great but when he asks Alex what he thought of it, it's almost like they saw a completely different movies.
			***Since it's sort of his job to think intensely about Star Wars movies as supposed to just watching them, Alex has to be guarded about what he shares with Andy because he doesn't want to ruin it for him.
			*Kylo's line that opens this minute is one of the most quoted lines from this movie, both by fans and detractors.
	===Meta Minute===		===Meta Minute===
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Kabutton at 03:53, 14 September 2022

2022-09-14T03:53:33Z

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	*'''Steele:''' I was going to say "Boy are your expectations going to be subverted, [Luke]'s all up in this piece later."		*'''Steele:''' I was going to say "Boy are your expectations going to be subverted, [Luke]'s all up in this piece later."
	*'''Steele''' You're becoming very well suited for YouTube.		*'''Steele''' You're becoming very well suited for YouTube.
	*'''Steele:''' "Remember to ruin an episode next season "		*'''Steele:''' "Remember to ruin an episode next season."
	==Links==		==Links==
	;Audio only: http://www.starwarsminute.com/2021/05/13/last-jedi-minute-74-space-bones		;Audio only: http://www.starwarsminute.com/2021/05/13/last-jedi-minute-74-space-bones
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