Last Jedi Minute 29: Can I Touch It?

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March 11th, 2021


Noah Segan flies in from the set to tell us what Stomeroni Starck is really like!


Noah Segan



  • Starts with Finn telling Poe that the First Order has them, and ends with Kylo Ren spinning his TIE fighter, just like his grandfather.


  • Spinning: still a good trick.

Noah's character Stomeroni Starck: what's his deal?

  • For whatever reason, Noah is required to be in all of Rian Johnson's movies; he wouldn't have greenlit the movie if they didn't put him in it.
  • Johnson's uncle is named Starck. The name Stomeroni comes from "Stoe", who Johnson and Pablo Hidalgo made up to be Poe's screw-up brother.
    • Mentioned: Peet Deretalia. Pete has a Google alert set up for her so he can always keep tabs on what's going on with the character.
  • No Spoilers, but something happens to Stomeroni Starck in the next couple minutes here.
    • But... unless you see a body, you can't guarantee that they're dead (at least in Star Wars).
      • Referenced: spider legs, "we have the technology. We can rebuild him..." from Six Million Dollar Man.
  • The Friendship / "will they/won't they" with Tallie. They could do this story as a prequel.
  • Supposedly, they're still going to do Rian Johnson's trilogy sometime in the future. What role Noah would play if they brought him back.

Backstage info

Sitting behind the pilot's seat of an X-wing

 In the new movies most of the vehicles are in at least some capacity fully functional the switches and buttons all work and light up. And the screens have animations. And in the snub Fighters the cockpits go up and down controlled by experienced operators. But they don't go up and down unless the person in the cockpit the actor is holding a sort of 'deadman switch' with both hands. So it was hard for Noah as Starck to bang on the cockpit door because he had to hold down the switch while doing that.

Noah's experience going on board the Falcon set.

 It is modular, so they can take it apart and put it back together again but it does all fit together. So you can walk under the stage up a gangplank and then you just on the Falcon which is how it was when Noah visited.
Everything feels so authentic because it 'is' authentic; they either found old props from the movies or they rebuilt the props from period materials.
What the actual theatrical Millennium Falcon smells like: musty, like it's been in storage since the 80s. It feels like a cool old muscle car in your garage.
The seats on the Falcon are surprisingly tiny.
All Noah wanted to know was 1) can I sit in the cockpit and 2) can I touch it?
Noah's friend Leo (producer on the movie and helping to show him around the set) left him and came back later and asked if you wanted to continue the tour. Noah wanted a few more minutes but he already been there for 35 minutes, unaware of the time that had passed. Far from taking away from the Magic, being on the Falcon set added to it.

The experience of being on set.

It is incredibly immersive; you're in a gigantic hanger sound stage and there are aliens whose facial expressions are either being controlled from within the costume or by remote control far enough away that you can't see the puppeteer, so they really come to life.
 Compared to the Prequels, which have a very claustrophobic feel because everything was shot on small sound stages in front of green screen.
How they brought the BB-8 puppet to life. Sort of like how when you interact with Muppets you immediately forget you're talking to a puppeteer and start to believe you were talking to the Muppet as a person.
Alex wishes he had someone else to control his facial expressions for him.

Noah's general Star Wars memories

Noah grew up a Star Wars guy, but his brother, who is 9½ years older was old enough to get into Jedi and was a big influence on him.
The lead-up to event movies and franchises these days, starting with the Prequels.
 Wild speculation from fan magazines back then; we were really grasping at anything.
We now realize it would have been impossible for the Prequels to live up to our expectations.

More backstage info

Noah also got to go to the costume department and saw a Chewbacca costume on a mannequin.

Like a bearskin rug or if someone skinned Chewbacca. Just like with the Falcon, Noah wanted to know "can I touch it?"
When he went over to it, he couldn't help but hug it, but when he caught himself and looked back to his friend, he was reassured to learn that everybody hugs it.

Other notes

  • Noah was only on set and shooting for like a few days, a week at most.
  • Everyone working there was in the same boat where this was their kid dreams come true.
    • Noah spoke with Rian about this project even before he had started writing and this is the thing that connects all of them to their childhood (mentioned: the Ur text) and everyone working there felt that way.
    • Not just the macro-level impact, but the micro-level, personal impact that Star Wars has had on our hosts and basically everybody.
    • Kids these days might not get it. Referenced: Look for the potato (episode).
  • Thanks to Noah for coming back on the show!

Meta Minute

  • 44:20 podcast episode length.
  • Most spaceships in science fiction don't have a 'steering wheel' (usually called a helm or a ship's wheel) per se, but many starfighters have a yoke or joystick (similar to fighter aircraft on Earth), while larger capital ships may be controlled by a helmsman who steers with buttons and switches that control automatic thrusters.
  • Tony Thaxton (who is a noted massive fan of the Muppets) reported a similar experience to what Noah is describing when he met Animal and Gonzo.
  • Nice try, Noah, but imdb says you were born in 1983, so that means if you're really 23, then you have been for the past 15 years.
  • Other cameos to look out for: Nathan Johnson (composer and Rian Johnson's cousin), playing a lanky figure in repose in a jail cell.


  • Noah: All I can do is glue his [Ryan Johnson's] fingers to the keyboard; I can't decide what he does with them from there.
  • Noah: Harrison Ford must have very... Toned buttocks.
  • Alex: Adults love movies about the taxation of trade routes, I know that.
  • Alex: (referring to Pete's 6-year-old daughter) She's into a range of I.P. Pete: Exactly, yeah. Her portfolio is diversified.


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