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==Date==
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August 23rd, 2013.
 
==Summary==
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Luke swings the lightsaber around blindly missing the seeker, which fires off a laserbolt and hits Luke square on the seat of the pants.
 
==Guests==
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[[Ryan Haupt]]
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==Notes==
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===Film===
===Film===
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*Minute 60 - the 1-hour mark!
*Starts with Han calling The Force a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
*Ends with Han still dismissing The Force, even after a demonstration of its power by Ben and Luke (ie defending against the remote training device). Han - "Good against remotes - that's one thing; good against the living - that's something else.")
 
===Podcast===
===Podcast===
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*A discussion about luck and whether it exists in Star Wars. Pete suggests that there definitely is luck and Ben knows it; while Alex suggests that Force believers would probably say that everything that happens is the will of The Force.
*Ben could have chosen a much better demonstration of the power of The Force. Luke blindly defending against a remote seems a bit tame (and lucky); why not levitate things around the Falcon. Ryan compares the approach of starting with a small demonstration and then building to something bigger with another famous example in the real world.
*Jedis saving up The Force for later use.
*Obi-Wan's voice constantly being in Luke's head in normal, day-to-day life.
*The helmet that Luke uses and the purpose of a full-face blast shield. Is this even useful? Is it like a welder's mask or a novelty item (like a giant sombrero)?
*Helmet laws in the Star Wars universe.
*The concept and tone of The Force and the way that it is portrayed has a very 70s (in America) feel.
*The quality of the special effects in the original version of the movie really stand up.
*Is the training remote a droid?
*The training remote shoots Luke in the foot. Poor Luke!
*Is Ben controlling Luke to deflect the laser bolts as a way of impressing Han given their debate about the power of The Force? (Note - This is a classic Pete question.)
*Luke's connection to The Force presumably being stronger than Obi-Wan's due to Annakin / Vader being Luke's father.
*Jedi not breeding with each other and therefore The Force gene (midi-chlorians) having to be a dominant trait.
*The Force being an inherited trait based on the movies.
*Given this, is Luke inherently good at The Force at this point (Ryan's view) or is he just being controlled by Obi-Wan the whole time (Pete and Alex's view)?
*What the Millennium Falcon [[Inside_References_and_Running_Jokes#What_does_it_smell_like.3F|smells like]]. A garage, a frat house, a rental van, pets, the humus that Han is eating, oil and electrical wires, a neutral odor, poop?
*The composition of the interior of the Falcon.
*The smell in the smuggling compartments must be overpowering.
*The blasters do not seem at all accurate, regardless of who is using them. Also, Stormtroopers get hit by blaster bolts a lot without hitting much themselves.
*Blaster vs lightsabers. How can a sword possibly be a better weapon than a gun? Maybe blasters are completely random.
*Greedo surviving being shot by Han.


===Meta Minute===
*20:54 podcast episode length.
*Referenced: the smell of the Space Shuttle and the International Space Station.
*How smell works, especially on space ships.
*Pete refers to an earlier draft of the script in which, just after the lightsaber training scene and Han's "nothing like a good blaster" line, Obi-Wan uses The Force to make Han's blaster shoot while its still in the holster on its leg - thereby making Han do a little dance of surprise. Alex is glad that they didn't actually do that in the movie.
*Ryan's first memories of Star Wars:
**The VHS tapes were always in his house and he watched them over and over again.
**He also remembers when the Special Editions were released and just barely recognizing that the changes weren't necessarily better.
**The prequels were released when he was in the 7th or 8th grade and therefore in the target market.
**He already liked Star Wars so he remembers being excited before their release and then slightly disappointed after seeing them. (Note - a common tale!)
**He was a fan of the idea of the prequels and expected good movies.
**He thought the lightsaber duel choreography in Episode 1 had definitely improved from the originals, and remembers actively disliking Episodes 2 and 3 in the cinema.
*Pete raises the following:
**He has a view that is potentially more controversial than simply not liking any of the prequels.
**By this point of the podcast, he has been called out on his blanket dislike of the prequels.
**Episode 1 is his favorite of the prequels. (Note - this is followed by a moment of - stunned - silence on the podcast.)
*Alex counters with:
**Revenge of the Sith (RotS) is has favorite movie of the prequels.
**He may like RotS more than he likes Return of the Jedi.
*Ryan talks about episode 26 of his podcast [http://sciencesortof.com/ Science... sort of] in which the cast:
**Explores a number of Star Wars items from a scientific point of view, including R2-D2 flying (which doesn't work scientifically).
**Discusses their general feelings about the prequels.
*Pete reveals that they no longer ask guests which other minute/s they want to come back for as scheduling is a nightmare. However theoretically Ryan says that he would really like to come back for the first appearance of Yoda - in TESB - which is one of his favorite moments.


===Meta Minute===
* ##:## podcast episode length
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==Quotes==
==Quotes==
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*'''Ryan:''' In the intro - "I'm Ryan Haupt and I forgot to come up with something clever..."
 
*'''Pete:''' I had a different idea of why that theory didn't work. '''Alex:''' Because midi-chlorians are stupid? '''Pete:''' Yeah.
*'''Pete:''' ...when they go into those smuggling compartments, its just gotta be like all farts in there. '''Ryan:''' That's what those compartments actually are - the fart compartments. They're the compartments that store all the farts. '''Alex:''' Comfartments you mean.
*'''Ryan:''' Wow - I feel like I'm uncovering some deep truths here.
*'''Alex:''' Stretch out with your <i>feelings</i>.
*'''Ryan:''' I assume that you guys are gonna do all the prequels minute-by-minute. '''Alex:''' Hmmm. '''Pete:''' <clears throat> I don't know what you just said.


==Link==
==Link==
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http://www.starwarsminute.com/2013/08/23/minute-60-simple-tricks-and-nonsense/
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Date

August 23rd, 2013.

Summary

Luke swings the lightsaber around blindly missing the seeker, which fires off a laserbolt and hits Luke square on the seat of the pants.

Guests

Ryan Haupt

Notes

Film

  • Minute 60 - the 1-hour mark!
  • Starts with Han calling The Force a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
  • Ends with Han still dismissing The Force, even after a demonstration of its power by Ben and Luke (ie defending against the remote training device). Han - "Good against remotes - that's one thing; good against the living - that's something else.")

Podcast

  • A discussion about luck and whether it exists in Star Wars. Pete suggests that there definitely is luck and Ben knows it; while Alex suggests that Force believers would probably say that everything that happens is the will of The Force.
  • Ben could have chosen a much better demonstration of the power of The Force. Luke blindly defending against a remote seems a bit tame (and lucky); why not levitate things around the Falcon. Ryan compares the approach of starting with a small demonstration and then building to something bigger with another famous example in the real world.
  • Jedis saving up The Force for later use.
  • Obi-Wan's voice constantly being in Luke's head in normal, day-to-day life.
  • The helmet that Luke uses and the purpose of a full-face blast shield. Is this even useful? Is it like a welder's mask or a novelty item (like a giant sombrero)?
  • Helmet laws in the Star Wars universe.
  • The concept and tone of The Force and the way that it is portrayed has a very 70s (in America) feel.
  • The quality of the special effects in the original version of the movie really stand up.
  • Is the training remote a droid?
  • The training remote shoots Luke in the foot. Poor Luke!
  • Is Ben controlling Luke to deflect the laser bolts as a way of impressing Han given their debate about the power of The Force? (Note - This is a classic Pete question.)
  • Luke's connection to The Force presumably being stronger than Obi-Wan's due to Annakin / Vader being Luke's father.
  • Jedi not breeding with each other and therefore The Force gene (midi-chlorians) having to be a dominant trait.
  • The Force being an inherited trait based on the movies.
  • Given this, is Luke inherently good at The Force at this point (Ryan's view) or is he just being controlled by Obi-Wan the whole time (Pete and Alex's view)?
  • What the Millennium Falcon smells like. A garage, a frat house, a rental van, pets, the humus that Han is eating, oil and electrical wires, a neutral odor, poop?
  • The composition of the interior of the Falcon.
  • The smell in the smuggling compartments must be overpowering.
  • The blasters do not seem at all accurate, regardless of who is using them. Also, Stormtroopers get hit by blaster bolts a lot without hitting much themselves.
  • Blaster vs lightsabers. How can a sword possibly be a better weapon than a gun? Maybe blasters are completely random.
  • Greedo surviving being shot by Han.

Meta Minute

  • 20:54 podcast episode length.
  • Referenced: the smell of the Space Shuttle and the International Space Station.
  • How smell works, especially on space ships.
  • Pete refers to an earlier draft of the script in which, just after the lightsaber training scene and Han's "nothing like a good blaster" line, Obi-Wan uses The Force to make Han's blaster shoot while its still in the holster on its leg - thereby making Han do a little dance of surprise. Alex is glad that they didn't actually do that in the movie.
  • Ryan's first memories of Star Wars:
    • The VHS tapes were always in his house and he watched them over and over again.
    • He also remembers when the Special Editions were released and just barely recognizing that the changes weren't necessarily better.
    • The prequels were released when he was in the 7th or 8th grade and therefore in the target market.
    • He already liked Star Wars so he remembers being excited before their release and then slightly disappointed after seeing them. (Note - a common tale!)
    • He was a fan of the idea of the prequels and expected good movies.
    • He thought the lightsaber duel choreography in Episode 1 had definitely improved from the originals, and remembers actively disliking Episodes 2 and 3 in the cinema.
  • Pete raises the following:
    • He has a view that is potentially more controversial than simply not liking any of the prequels.
    • By this point of the podcast, he has been called out on his blanket dislike of the prequels.
    • Episode 1 is his favorite of the prequels. (Note - this is followed by a moment of - stunned - silence on the podcast.)
  • Alex counters with:
    • Revenge of the Sith (RotS) is has favorite movie of the prequels.
    • He may like RotS more than he likes Return of the Jedi.
  • Ryan talks about episode 26 of his podcast Science... sort of in which the cast:
    • Explores a number of Star Wars items from a scientific point of view, including R2-D2 flying (which doesn't work scientifically).
    • Discusses their general feelings about the prequels.
  • Pete reveals that they no longer ask guests which other minute/s they want to come back for as scheduling is a nightmare. However theoretically Ryan says that he would really like to come back for the first appearance of Yoda - in TESB - which is one of his favorite moments.

Quotes

  • Ryan: In the intro - "I'm Ryan Haupt and I forgot to come up with something clever..."
  • Pete: I had a different idea of why that theory didn't work. Alex: Because midi-chlorians are stupid? Pete: Yeah.
  • Pete: ...when they go into those smuggling compartments, its just gotta be like all farts in there. Ryan: That's what those compartments actually are - the fart compartments. They're the compartments that store all the farts. Alex: Comfartments you mean.
  • Ryan: Wow - I feel like I'm uncovering some deep truths here.
  • Alex: Stretch out with your feelings.
  • Ryan: I assume that you guys are gonna do all the prequels minute-by-minute. Alex: Hmmm. Pete: <clears throat> I don't know what you just said.

Link

http://www.starwarsminute.com/2013/08/23/minute-60-simple-tricks-and-nonsense/


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