Jedi Minute 46: Webelo

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Date

March 9th, 2015

Summary

Luke looks up to see the shimmering image of BEN KENOBI.

Guests

Chris Radtke

Notes

Film

Starts with Luke telling R2 that he can't do it - followed by Obi-Wan's suprising appearance.
Then Obi-Wan explains some stuff.
Ends with Obi-Wan waxing nostalgically about Luke's father.

Podcast

  • Cold-open - Promotion for starwarsminute.com/merch.
  • Chris is a trifecta member of the podcast.
  • Jedis, specifically heavyset Jedis. All heavyset characters in Star Wars. Cosplay as these characters would be a lot easier.
  • Mentioned: *NSYNC; Billy Crystal.
  • What R2 thinks when Luke says he is alone. Things that people do in front of droids.
  • Obi-Wan does an old man stumble through the swamp. Ghosts should just hover or move through physical items.
  • Ghost Obi-Wan has gone from being just a voice in A New Hope, a cloud in The Empire Strikes Back to a ghost interacting with the environment in Return of the Jedi.
  • Obi-Wan may have appeared in the swamp a long way away from where he wanted to be and has been walking for ages. Luke needs to catch him up on whats been happening.
  • Hopefully Obi-Wan's force ghost won't be stuck on Dagobah.
  • Why did Obi-Wan choose to appear now and not earlier? Maybe Obi-Wan and Yoda are sick of each other.
  • Obi-Wan was waiting to see what Yoda told Luke before appearing.
  • Can R2 see ghost Obi-Wan - or is R2 actually projecting the image for Luke?
  • Luke sounds like a whiny kid when he is talking to Obi-Wan. He should have been more mature.
  • Obi-Wan should have told Luke the truth from the very beginning; Luke probably would have been on-board right away.
  • Luke's weird path through the Star Wars saga.
  • This is one of the few times that Luke calls Ben Obi-Wan.
  • Luke's Jedi status at this stage of the movie.
  • Mentioned: Boy Scouts.
  • The first time we hear the name Anakin. Nerds calling their children Anakin since 1995.
 Chris's best friend at Nursery School was a boy called Aragorn.
 Chris had no idea what this meant until he saw the animated Lord of the Rings movie.
 Chris reconnected with the person via Facebook a few years back.
 Aragorn clearly had cool 70's parents.
  • The character Anakin was not at all well known in the 90s.
  • Other unfortunate pop-culture names (eg Ultron).
  • Ben seems to have no regrets about lying to Luke. Or does Ben think that his story is actually true? No, Ben is just a liar.
  • Its quite common when friends fall-out for them to say "well, he's dead to me now". Maybe Ben was taking this literally when he told Luke that his father is dead. This theory doesn't really hold up given that Ben said that Vader betrayed and killed Anakin - this makes it sound like both Vader and Anakin existed at the same time.
  • How soon after a Jedi dies can they become a Force ghost? It takes a while as they re-asseble themselves and move through the various stages (eg voice, cloud, visible).
  • Did Yoda appear as a Force ghost to anyone else before appearing to Luke? Also, how did Anakin learn the Force ghost trick?
  • Every dead Jedi appearing as Force ghosts at the same time in the same place.
  • Ben's description of Anakin doesn't fully match what is shown in the prequels.
  • Return of the Jedi looks like it was shot / filmed for TV. Richard Marquand (Director) was from TV, inexpensive and compliant and Lucas was happy to leave him to it.
  • The rhythm of "What I said was TRUE from a certain point of VIEW".
  • Support the Show.

Meta Minute

  • 25:44 podcast episode length.

Quotes

  • Pete: The website is heavysetjedi.com.
  • Chris: <As Obi-Wan> So Luke, have you ever heard of Darth Vader?
  • Chris: Its true, I cling on to a lot of lies. Pete: Klingons are a different show.
  • Chris: The next time I have a falling out with a friend, and it could be one of you...

Link

http://www.starwarsminute.com/2015/03/09/jedi-minute-46-webelo/


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