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===Film=== | ===Film=== | ||
*Minute 60 - the 1-hour mark! | *Minute 60 - the 1-hour mark! | ||
*Starts with Han calling | *Starts with Han calling the Force a lot of simple tricks and nonsense. | ||
*Ends with Han still dismissing | *Ends with Han still dismissing the Force, even after a demonstration of its power by Ben and Luke (i.e. defending against the remote training device). Han - "Good against remotes - that's one thing; good against the living - that's something else.") | ||
===Podcast=== | ===Podcast=== | ||
*A discussion about luck and whether it exists in Star Wars. Pete suggests that there definitely is luck and Ben knows it; while Alex suggests that Force believers would probably say that everything that happens is the will of | *A discussion about luck and whether it exists in Star Wars. Pete suggests that there definitely is luck and Ben knows it; while Alex suggests that Force believers would probably say that everything that happens is the will of the Force. | ||
*Ben could have chosen a much better demonstration of the power of | *Ben could have chosen a much better demonstration of the power of the Force. Luke blindly defending against a remote seems a bit tame (and lucky); why not levitate things around the ''Falcon''. Ryan compares the approach of starting with a small demonstration and then building to something bigger with another famous example in the real world. | ||
*Jedis saving up | *Jedis saving up the Force for later use. | ||
*Obi-Wan's voice constantly being in Luke's head in normal, day-to-day life. | *Obi-Wan's voice constantly being in Luke's head in normal, day-to-day life. | ||
*The helmet that Luke uses and the purpose of a full-face blast shield. Is this even useful? Is it like a welder's mask or a novelty item (like a giant sombrero)? | *The helmet that Luke uses and the purpose of a full-face blast shield. Is this even useful? Is it like a welder's mask or a novelty item (like a giant sombrero)? | ||
*Helmet laws in the Star Wars universe. | *Helmet laws in the Star Wars universe. | ||
*The concept and tone of | *The concept and tone of the Force and the way that it is portrayed has a very 70s (in America) feel. | ||
*The quality of the special effects in the original version of the movie really stand up. | *The quality of the special effects in the original version of the movie really stand up. | ||
*Is the training remote a droid? | *Is the training remote a droid? | ||
*The training remote shoots Luke in the foot. Poor Luke! | *The training remote shoots Luke in the foot. Poor Luke! | ||
*Is Ben controlling Luke to deflect the laser bolts as a way of impressing Han given their debate about the power of | *Is Ben controlling Luke to deflect the laser bolts as a way of impressing Han given their debate about the power of the Force? (''Note - This is a classic Pete question.'') | ||
*Luke's connection to | *Luke's connection to the Force presumably being stronger than Obi-Wan's due to Anakin/Vader being Luke's father. | ||
*Jedi not breeding with each other and therefore | *Jedi not breeding with each other and therefore the Force gene (midi-chlorians) having to be a dominant trait. | ||
*The Force being an inherited trait based on the movies. | *The Force being an inherited trait based on the movies. | ||
*Given this, is Luke inherently good at | *Given this, is Luke inherently good at the Force at this point (Ryan's view) or is he just being controlled by Obi-Wan the whole time (Pete and Alex's view)? | ||
*What the Millennium Falcon [[What does it smell like?|smells like]]. A garage, a frat house, a rental van, pets, the humus that Han is eating, oil and electrical wires, a neutral odor, poop? | *What the ''Millennium Falcon'' [[What does it smell like?|smells like]]. A garage, a frat house, a rental van, pets, the humus that Han is eating, oil and electrical wires, a neutral odor, poop? | ||
*The composition of the interior of the Falcon. | *The composition of the interior of the ''Falcon''. | ||
*The [[What does it smell like?|smell in the smuggling compartments]] must be overpowering. | *The [[What does it smell like?|smell in the smuggling compartments]] must be overpowering. | ||
*The blasters do not seem at all accurate, regardless of who is using them. Also, Stormtroopers get hit by blaster bolts a lot without hitting much themselves. | *The blasters do not seem at all accurate, regardless of who is using them. Also, Stormtroopers get hit by blaster bolts a lot without hitting much themselves. | ||
*Blaster vs lightsabers. How can a sword possibly be a better weapon than a gun? Maybe blasters are completely random. | *Blaster vs lightsabers. How can a sword possibly be a better weapon than a gun? Maybe blasters are completely random. | ||
*Greedo surviving being shot by Han. | *Greedo surviving being shot by Han. | ||
*Referenced: the smell of the Space Shuttle and the International Space Station. | *Referenced: the smell of the Space Shuttle and the International Space Station. | ||
*How smell works, especially on space ships. | *How smell works, especially on space ships. | ||
*Pete refers to an earlier draft of the script in which, just after the lightsaber training scene and Han's "nothing like a good blaster" line, Obi-Wan uses | *Pete refers to an earlier draft of the script in which, just after the lightsaber training scene and Han's "nothing like a good blaster" line, Obi-Wan uses the Force to make Han's blaster shoot while it's still in the holster on his leg - thereby making Han do a little dance of surprise. Alex is glad that they didn't actually do that in the movie. | ||
*Ryan's first memories of Star Wars: | *Ryan's first memories of Star Wars: | ||
**The VHS tapes were always in his house and he watched them over and over again. | **The VHS tapes were always in his house and he watched them over and over again. | ||
**He also remembers when the Special Editions were released and just barely recognizing that the changes weren't necessarily better. | **He also remembers when the Special Editions were released and just barely recognizing that the changes weren't necessarily better. | ||
**The | **The Prequels were released when he was in the 7th or 8th grade and therefore in the target market. | ||
**He already liked Star Wars so he remembers being excited before their release and then slightly disappointed after seeing them. (Note - a common tale!) | **He already liked Star Wars so he remembers being excited before their release and then slightly disappointed after seeing them. (''Note - a common tale!'') | ||
**He was a fan of the idea of the | **He was a fan of the idea of the Prequels and expected good movies. | ||
**He thought the lightsaber duel choreography in Episode | **He thought the lightsaber duel choreography in ''Episode I'' had definitely improved from the originals, and remembers actively disliking ''Episodes II'' and ''III'' in the cinema. | ||
*Pete raises the following: | *Pete raises the following: | ||
**He has a view that is potentially more controversial than simply not liking any of the | **He has a view that is potentially more controversial than simply not liking any of the Prequels. | ||
**By this point of the podcast, he has been called out on his blanket dislike of the | **By this point of the podcast, he has been called out on his blanket dislike of the Prequels. | ||
**Episode | **''Episode I'' is his favorite of the Prequels. (''Note - this is followed by a moment of stunned silence on the podcast.'') | ||
*Alex counters with: | *Alex counters with: | ||
**''Revenge of the Sith'' ( | **''Revenge of the Sith'' (ROTS) is has favorite movie of the Prequels. | ||
**He may like | **He may like ROTS more than he likes ''Return of the Jedi''. | ||
*Ryan talks about episode 26 of his podcast [http://sciencesortof.com/ Science... sort of] in which the cast: | *Ryan talks about episode 26 of his podcast [http://sciencesortof.com/ Science... sort of] in which the cast: | ||
**Explores a number of Star Wars items from a scientific point of view, including R2-D2 flying (which doesn't work scientifically). | **Explores a number of Star Wars items from a scientific point of view, including R2-D2 flying (which doesn't work scientifically). | ||
**Discusses their general feelings about the | **Discusses their general feelings about the Prequels. | ||
*Pete reveals that they no longer ask guests which other minute/s they want to come back for as scheduling is a nightmare. However theoretically Ryan says that he would really like to come back for the first appearance of Yoda | ===Meta Minute=== | ||
*20:54 podcast episode length. | |||
*Pete reveals that they no longer ask guests which other minute/s they want to come back for as scheduling is a nightmare. However theoretically Ryan says that he would really like to come back for the first appearance of Yoda (in ESB) which is one of his favorite moments. | |||
**Ryan will be [[The Empire Strikes Back 51|back for ''Empire'']], but he missed the [[The Empire Strikes Back 48|first Yoda scene]] by about two minutes. | |||
==Quotes== | ==Quotes== | ||
*'''Ryan:''' In the intro - "I'm Ryan Haupt and I forgot to come up with something clever..." | *'''Ryan:''' In the intro - "I'm Ryan Haupt and I forgot to come up with something clever..." | ||
*'''Pete:''' I had a different idea of why that theory didn't work. '''Alex:''' Because midi-chlorians are stupid? '''Pete:''' Yeah. | *'''Pete:''' I had a different idea of why that theory didn't work. '''Alex:''' Because midi-chlorians are stupid? '''Pete:''' Yeah. | ||
*'''Pete:''' ...when they go into those smuggling compartments, | *'''Pete:''' ...when they go into those smuggling compartments, it's just gotta be like all farts in there. '''Ryan:''' That's what those compartments actually are - the fart compartments. They're the compartments that store all the farts. '''Alex:''' Comfartments you mean. | ||
*'''Ryan:''' Wow - I feel like I'm uncovering some deep truths here. | *'''Ryan:''' Wow - I feel like I'm uncovering some deep truths here. | ||
*'''Alex:''' Stretch out with your < | *'''Alex:''' Stretch out with your <em>feelings</em>. | ||
*'''Ryan:''' I assume that you guys are gonna do all the | *'''Ryan:''' I assume that you guys are gonna do all the Prequels minute-by-minute. '''Alex:''' Hmmm. '''Pete:''' <clears throat> I don't know what you just said. | ||
==Link== | ==Link== | ||
http://www.starwarsminute.com/2013/08/23/minute-60-simple-tricks-and-nonsense/ | http://www.starwarsminute.com/2013/08/23/minute-60-simple-tricks-and-nonsense/ | ||
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Date
August 23rd, 2013.
Summary
Luke swings the lightsaber around blindly missing the seeker, which fires off a laserbolt and hits Luke square on the seat of the pants.
Guests
Notes
Film
- Minute 60 - the 1-hour mark!
- Starts with Han calling the Force a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
- Ends with Han still dismissing the Force, even after a demonstration of its power by Ben and Luke (i.e. defending against the remote training device). Han - "Good against remotes - that's one thing; good against the living - that's something else.")
Podcast
- A discussion about luck and whether it exists in Star Wars. Pete suggests that there definitely is luck and Ben knows it; while Alex suggests that Force believers would probably say that everything that happens is the will of the Force.
- Ben could have chosen a much better demonstration of the power of the Force. Luke blindly defending against a remote seems a bit tame (and lucky); why not levitate things around the Falcon. Ryan compares the approach of starting with a small demonstration and then building to something bigger with another famous example in the real world.
- Jedis saving up the Force for later use.
- Obi-Wan's voice constantly being in Luke's head in normal, day-to-day life.
- The helmet that Luke uses and the purpose of a full-face blast shield. Is this even useful? Is it like a welder's mask or a novelty item (like a giant sombrero)?
- Helmet laws in the Star Wars universe.
- The concept and tone of the Force and the way that it is portrayed has a very 70s (in America) feel.
- The quality of the special effects in the original version of the movie really stand up.
- Is the training remote a droid?
- The training remote shoots Luke in the foot. Poor Luke!
- Is Ben controlling Luke to deflect the laser bolts as a way of impressing Han given their debate about the power of the Force? (Note - This is a classic Pete question.)
- Luke's connection to the Force presumably being stronger than Obi-Wan's due to Anakin/Vader being Luke's father.
- Jedi not breeding with each other and therefore the Force gene (midi-chlorians) having to be a dominant trait.
- The Force being an inherited trait based on the movies.
- Given this, is Luke inherently good at the Force at this point (Ryan's view) or is he just being controlled by Obi-Wan the whole time (Pete and Alex's view)?
- What the Millennium Falcon smells like. A garage, a frat house, a rental van, pets, the humus that Han is eating, oil and electrical wires, a neutral odor, poop?
- The composition of the interior of the Falcon.
- The smell in the smuggling compartments must be overpowering.
- The blasters do not seem at all accurate, regardless of who is using them. Also, Stormtroopers get hit by blaster bolts a lot without hitting much themselves.
- Blaster vs lightsabers. How can a sword possibly be a better weapon than a gun? Maybe blasters are completely random.
- Greedo surviving being shot by Han.
- Referenced: the smell of the Space Shuttle and the International Space Station.
- How smell works, especially on space ships.
- Pete refers to an earlier draft of the script in which, just after the lightsaber training scene and Han's "nothing like a good blaster" line, Obi-Wan uses the Force to make Han's blaster shoot while it's still in the holster on his leg - thereby making Han do a little dance of surprise. Alex is glad that they didn't actually do that in the movie.
- Ryan's first memories of Star Wars:
- The VHS tapes were always in his house and he watched them over and over again.
- He also remembers when the Special Editions were released and just barely recognizing that the changes weren't necessarily better.
- The Prequels were released when he was in the 7th or 8th grade and therefore in the target market.
- He already liked Star Wars so he remembers being excited before their release and then slightly disappointed after seeing them. (Note - a common tale!)
- He was a fan of the idea of the Prequels and expected good movies.
- He thought the lightsaber duel choreography in Episode I had definitely improved from the originals, and remembers actively disliking Episodes II and III in the cinema.
- Pete raises the following:
- He has a view that is potentially more controversial than simply not liking any of the Prequels.
- By this point of the podcast, he has been called out on his blanket dislike of the Prequels.
- Episode I is his favorite of the Prequels. (Note - this is followed by a moment of stunned silence on the podcast.)
- Alex counters with:
- Revenge of the Sith (ROTS) is has favorite movie of the Prequels.
- He may like ROTS more than he likes Return of the Jedi.
- Ryan talks about episode 26 of his podcast Science... sort of in which the cast:
- Explores a number of Star Wars items from a scientific point of view, including R2-D2 flying (which doesn't work scientifically).
- Discusses their general feelings about the Prequels.
Meta Minute
- 20:54 podcast episode length.
- Pete reveals that they no longer ask guests which other minute/s they want to come back for as scheduling is a nightmare. However theoretically Ryan says that he would really like to come back for the first appearance of Yoda (in ESB) which is one of his favorite moments.
- Ryan will be back for Empire, but he missed the first Yoda scene by about two minutes.
Quotes
- Ryan: In the intro - "I'm Ryan Haupt and I forgot to come up with something clever..."
- Pete: I had a different idea of why that theory didn't work. Alex: Because midi-chlorians are stupid? Pete: Yeah.
- Pete: ...when they go into those smuggling compartments, it's just gotta be like all farts in there. Ryan: That's what those compartments actually are - the fart compartments. They're the compartments that store all the farts. Alex: Comfartments you mean.
- Ryan: Wow - I feel like I'm uncovering some deep truths here.
- Alex: Stretch out with your feelings.
- Ryan: I assume that you guys are gonna do all the Prequels minute-by-minute. Alex: Hmmm. Pete: <clears throat> I don't know what you just said.
Link
http://www.starwarsminute.com/2013/08/23/minute-60-simple-tricks-and-nonsense/